jon: mary is it media laziness or the fact that under a george w. bush presidency it was easier for the media to pile on, you know, the coverage of the debt ceiling and the explosion in the debt that began back then? >> the media is not lazy when they are looking for something that they want to look for. remember, this is the same media that dug up one of rick santorum's wife's exboyfriends from high school. the media is not lazy when they want to find something. they don't want to find this on obama. he's their guy. and it is a liberal by as, because if they wanted to find it they could find it, they choose not to. no excuse. jon: ellen i'm sorry are go ahead. >> there is just no excuse for it. he walked back some of what he said in 2006, essentially by saying, well when hour a senator you vote for different things than when you're president. really it was just a protest vote, and it was meaningless, and, you know, again that does -- >> look, look, that was an absurd response. that is just not true. you have to be held accountable for your votes an